Help did I just delete my session by mistake?

[jkohler85]

Help!

I just spent about an hour on a drawing.

I double clicked a dimension and all of a sudden I was looking only at the dimension and the rest of the drawing was gone. I believed Q-Cad had jumped it into a new session marked untitled so I hit the x, and it asked if I wanted to save. I said no.

My work is now all gone. Apparently I was working in an untitled session and had not officially saved (thought I was working within one I had open).

Any hope of recovery? I don't see any autosave for an untitled .DWG or .DXF on my laptop.

This is devastating and not the only save issue I have had with the program as of late.

Josh

[Husky]

Hello Josh - welcome to the forum

Help!

I double clicked a dimension and all of a sudden I was looking only at the dimension and the rest of the drawing was gone.

A double click in Qcad on a QCad dimension would not cause an effect like that.
Question: Was this drawing from an other source? If yes could it be that the dimension was a block?

I believed Q-Cad had jumped it into a new session marked untitled so I hit the x, and it asked if I wanted to save. I said no.

QCad will never start a new session on it own.

Any hope of recovery? I don't see any Autosave for an untitled .DWG or .DXF on my laptop.

Was your QCad Autosave enabled? If yes QCad will also Autosave an Untitled drawing. It will save this file as "~Untitled_1.dxf" in the same directory where the "QCAD3.ini" is stored.
I don't know your OS - look for this file below something like "AppData\Roaming\QCAD".

BUT if QCad has ask you "Save or not save" and your decision was "not save" then this Autosave file will already be deleted by QCad!

Good luck!

[jkohler85]

Hi there,

Thank you very much for the response.

It just happened again.

This time around I immediately saved the session on creating it and re-did the work I had done, which honestly went quickly the second time around.

However this time I got pretty decently far in and double clicked an element and EVERYTHING disappeared except that element. In both cases it was a Text File with a Circle around it indicating the elevation of a platform. I hit undo, nothing came back. I went through the layers turning them on and off, nothing. Zoomed far out to see if it had simply been moved or shrunk, nothing.

This seems like an INSANE design flaw. Now in this case I was able to quit, not save changes, and at least go back to the state of having the first plate of my drawing intact, however I did lose the 15 minutes of additional work I had done.

What am I doing, and what is happening, and why can't it be undone?

Thanks!

[jkohler85]

Hi,

I did a screen grab of what happens (it just happened again) can anyone explain what is going on?

Thanks!

Josh

[Husky]

Hi Josh,

1. let me ask you again: Is this drawing from an other source than QCAD or is it completely new done with QCad?

2. your screenshot shows me the "Print preview". You are working on your drawing in the Print preview?

3. Could you please attache this troublemaking drawing or at least an example drawing what shows the same behavior?

Edit:

In both cases it was a Text File with a Circle around it indicating the elevation of a platform. I hit undo, nothing came back.

4. Is this "Circle/Text" a Block?

[jkohler85]

Hi,

Sorry for not answering this the first time.

1. The file was a .DWG exported from .VWX. I then created a new QCAD Session and was copying and pasting over elements from the converted file.

2. Yes I was working on it in Print Preview because I like having the blank spacing in the background, but I also turned Print Preview off to see if that affected anything and it did not appear to.

3. I will attach it sure!

4. I am not sure if they are a block, they may be.

I also understand this could be an unintentional user error, or something I do not understand about the program. I've been using it for a few years but mostly to create my own drawings, and this is my first experience with an issue like this. However, it has not happened in the past when I have done similar types of copying and pasting.

I am attaching the files but please note once I completed the work I deleted the copy and pasted piece from the session to prevent this from happening again, so I am also attaching the file I am pulling from that has been causing these anomalies.

Thanks very much for the feedback and support!

Josh

[jkohler85]

And the source file.

[Husky]

Hi Josh - thanks for the drawings. Now we are on the same page ...

Yes I was working on it in Print Preview because I like having the blank spacing in the background, but I also turned Print Preview off to see if that affected anything and it did not appear to.

You are right - that doesn't matter. BTW: If you like to change the Background color for the working space just look below:
Edit / Application Preferences / Graphic View / Colors

Back to your problem:
The troublemaking Circle/Text is a Block. What means it is not really troublemaking - it just behaves differently.
Here you will find a short explanation regarding Blocks:

http://www.ribbonsoft.com/doc/qcad/2.2/ ... r04.html#4

After this short explanation you will understand the purpose of a Block. One of the nice things about a block is - you can edit a block. There are different ways to switch to the block edit modus - one of them is a double click on the Block in your drawing (if enabled in the Application Preferences). That is what happened to you!
In this Block edit modus you will only see this block - nothing else from your drawing. Just think the drawing is behind the Block window. Now you can change this block and after closing the edit modus all blocks regarding to this one in your drawing will be replaced by the changed block.

Maybe it helps you to launch and see the "Block List". Just launch it below Menu / View / Block List

It looks like this one:

Husky-2016.09.11-02.png (12.3 KiB) Viewed 5587 times

There are different ways to terminate this edit modus - one of them is to use the "X" (undo will not exit the edit Modus!) in the Button row of the Block List ...

Husky-2016.09.11-03.png (19.2 KiB) Viewed 5587 times

... and you are back to your drawing.

If you don't need this function anymore of this Block in your drawing - select this Block in your drawing and use the "Explode" tool. This will destroy the block function!

Hope this brief explanation will bring you back on track.

[jkohler85]

THANK YOU

That explains it, I was so very very confused.

Much appreciated, totally my mistake. That's why you always save!!!!

Josh

[Husky]

THANK YOU

You are welcome!